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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 21st, 2004, 4:40 pm
Dude, you get very agitated at the slightest thing! SORRY!

Its a joke, a funny, A GENTILE RIBBING!

I'm glad u aren't my girlfriend. I wouldn't be having sex for a LONG time.
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on October 21st, 2004, 8:40 pm
Sorry I was a bit steamed at the time. It kinda seemed like you were being a d*ck. Yeah maybe its better that I'm not your girlfriend. Next time you post a comment like that Ill try to remember that its a joke and hopefully it will be.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 24th, 2004, 3:57 pm
Wow we have fought twice in this topic. COOL!
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Postby SFGAmfreak4life on October 25th, 2004, 3:19 pm
Yeah it is.

Has the park been running both trains during FF? Im asking because when I was waiting in line for it and they put a second one on.
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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 25th, 2004, 10:02 pm
Yep.
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Postby Chitown on October 25th, 2004, 10:26 pm
You two need to get a room. :)
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Postby greatamerica2003 on October 26th, 2004, 12:02 am
He he he. Hey I'm just answering questions.
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Postby great america fan on September 26th, 2016, 1:07 pm
i know its been 12 years but does anyone know from what years the steam trains ran or what year the current ones were introduced
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 26th, 2016, 3:07 pm
I'd check greatamericaparks.com, probably some info there
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Postby great america fan on September 27th, 2016, 11:28 am
RollingCoasting wrote:I'd check greatamericaparks.com, probably some info there

I checked couldn't find anything.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 27th, 2016, 3:52 pm
Is this what you're looking for?

"In 1999, the CP&LE acquired its latest locomotive, a 2-4-4T. As yet unused and un-named, it is STORED in the CP&LE enginehouse for possible future use. It started as a Davenport 0-4-0T (construction number 2081) which was built in July 1927 for the N&S Coal Company in Pittsburg, Kansas. At an unknown date, the engine was sold to the Mackie Clemens Fuel Company in Mulberry, Kansas, who numbered the engine #55. Since Mulberry is a very small village only eight miles from Pittsburg, it is likely that Mulberry had a Pittsburg mailing address in 1927 and the whole N&S company was sold to Mackie Clemens, so the engine probably never moved from its original home. In 1977, the engine was acquired by the Keystone Light Railway Company in Hermanie, Pennsylvania, and it was restored as a 2-4-4T for Marriott's Great America amusement park in Gurnee, Illinois. Keystone's work was normally done at Harliss Industries in Irwin, PA, but it is possible that at least some of the WORK ON this engine was done at Buckeye Boiler on East First Street in Dayton, Ohio, where the engine is believed to have been seen indoors through dirty windows in the mid 1970s. Buckeye Boiler was associated with International Amusement, a firm formed when George Roose’s son Bill acquired National Amusement Device in Dayton about the time George Roose retired from Cedar Point (around 1975).

The engine was delivered to Great America in Gurnee in 1980, but Marriott stored it behind their enginehouse still in its shipping crate and never used it. Around 1983, it was offered for sale for $90,000, but it apparently did not sell as it was still on the property when the park was sold to Six Flags in May 1984. By 1991, the engine had been sent to Shop Services and was restored for Bill Norred who was planning a Victorian village in southern California. In 1996 (already having two other engines), Mr. Norred traded the engine to Disney for five of the original (1955) Disneyland closed coaches which had been out of service for nearly twenty years. Shortly thereafter, Mr. Norred passed away before having the chance to build his dream. The Davenport proved too big for the Disneyland Railroad, and was sent to Florida to be used on the Walt DISNEY WORLD Railroad. There, it was named the "Ward Kimball" after the famous animator who had developed Jiminy Cricket. It was tested for a brief period of time beginning on March 1, 1997, but proved too small for regular use with the larger trains and grades in Orlando. It was then placed on display for a while at Epcot before being traded to Cedar Point for the CP&LE's original engine "Maud L." in 1999.

This engine is 30'-5" long, weighs 48,439 lbs. in working order, has a 42" boiler with 165 PSI boiler pressure, 11" x 16" cylinders, 28" drive wheels, and 18" pilot wheels. The tank holds 675 gallons of water, and at Walt Disney World carried 300 gallons of fuel oil. As a footnote, a sister Mackie Clemens Davenport 0-4-0 was rebuilt as a diesel for Opryland in Nashville and named Elizabeth, leading to a misunderstanding that the engine at Cedar Point was named Elizabeth.

The Locomotive now resides at Knott's Berry Farm getting ready to return to operable service."
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Postby great america fan on September 28th, 2016, 8:36 am
RollingCoasting wrote:Is this what you're looking for?

"In 1999, the CP&LE acquired its latest locomotive, a 2-4-4T. As yet unused and un-named, it is STORED in the CP&LE enginehouse for possible future use. It started as a Davenport 0-4-0T (construction number 2081) which was built in July 1927 for the N&S Coal Company in Pittsburg, Kansas. At an unknown date, the engine was sold to the Mackie Clemens Fuel Company in Mulberry, Kansas, who numbered the engine #55. Since Mulberry is a very small village only eight miles from Pittsburg, it is likely that Mulberry had a Pittsburg mailing address in 1927 and the whole N&S company was sold to Mackie Clemens, so the engine probably never moved from its original home. In 1977, the engine was acquired by the Keystone Light Railway Company in Hermanie, Pennsylvania, and it was restored as a 2-4-4T for Marriott's Great America amusement park in Gurnee, Illinois. Keystone's work was normally done at Harliss Industries in Irwin, PA, but it is possible that at least some of the WORK ON this engine was done at Buckeye Boiler on East First Street in Dayton, Ohio, where the engine is believed to have been seen indoors through dirty windows in the mid 1970s. Buckeye Boiler was associated with International Amusement, a firm formed when George Roose’s son Bill acquired National Amusement Device in Dayton about the time George Roose retired from Cedar Point (around 1975).

The engine was delivered to Great America in Gurnee in 1980, but Marriott stored it behind their enginehouse still in its shipping crate and never used it. Around 1983, it was offered for sale for $90,000, but it apparently did not sell as it was still on the property when the park was sold to Six Flags in May 1984. By 1991, the engine had been sent to Shop Services and was restored for Bill Norred who was planning a Victorian village in southern California. In 1996 (already having two other engines), Mr. Norred traded the engine to Disney for five of the original (1955) Disneyland closed coaches which had been out of service for nearly twenty years. Shortly thereafter, Mr. Norred passed away before having the chance to build his dream. The Davenport proved too big for the Disneyland Railroad, and was sent to Florida to be used on the Walt DISNEY WORLD Railroad. There, it was named the "Ward Kimball" after the famous animator who had developed Jiminy Cricket. It was tested for a brief period of time beginning on March 1, 1997, but proved too small for regular use with the larger trains and grades in Orlando. It was then placed on display for a while at Epcot before being traded to Cedar Point for the CP&LE's original engine "Maud L." in 1999.

This engine is 30'-5" long, weighs 48,439 lbs. in working order, has a 42" boiler with 165 PSI boiler pressure, 11" x 16" cylinders, 28" drive wheels, and 18" pilot wheels. The tank holds 675 gallons of water, and at Walt Disney World carried 300 gallons of fuel oil. As a footnote, a sister Mackie Clemens Davenport 0-4-0 was rebuilt as a diesel for Opryland in Nashville and named Elizabeth, leading to a misunderstanding that the engine at Cedar Point was named Elizabeth.

The Locomotive now resides at Knott's Berry Farm getting ready to return to operable service."

yep thanks :D
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